If things are gonna fall, you should want them to fall “between the cracks.”And actually while writing this comment i think i cleared up why there are different definition of “Same Difference”, maybe?I think the expression “same difference” is illogical and should be done away with. Heck, one million divided by 250,000 equals, you got it, four again. "Oh, and as for "I could care less", I don't think it means that you do actually care a little.
Your comments frequently make an invaluable contribution to the story of words and phrases in everyday usage over many years.To search for a specific phrase, put it between quotation marks.This is the easiest way to find a column on a particular word or phrase.I think of it as comparing 2 things from 2 perspectives, 1 from A perspective, and 1 from B perspective, if 2 things are different (A and B) then they are both different in the same way from both perspectives (A is 2 more than B in A’s perspective, and A is still 2 more than B in B’s perspective, of course, B can be 2 less than A in A’s perspective, but then B will still be 2 less in B’s perspective, they are equally different from both perspectives, because neither of them changes)So where did the use of “same difference” to mean “the same” come from?
And in any case it's only used informally; nobody's going to write it in an academic essay!I can certainly see why some might find the oxymoron "same difference" irritating, but I have to agree with Will; it does make a certain kind of sense. The most likely answer is simply that people combined “the same” and “no difference,” perhaps first as a mistake, and the phrase then “grew legs” because it embodies a certain cheeky humor, which brings us to an important point. English is just like that sometimes. I would say the opinion that Steve Melnikoff gives is an interpretation that is not in the two words.
To me, the phrase "same difference" implies a comparison between TWO sets.I've always thought it was a humorous combination of 'Same thing' and 'No Difference'This phrase has aggravated me since the first time I heard it. To me, "could care less" implies the speaker cares a bit more than not at all, and they could still drop to absolute zero in caring but have not yet. (Well, most actual English doesn't, to be honest. The Longman Dictionary example you provided does highlight it's best application to me, but it still sounds off.I guess the most I can do is be dissatisfied with its saturation, but I appreciate you clearing it up for me.
- "Same difference, I hate them both! How can “same” be “different”? "Apple as a company has been as much about design as about technology.
"@J.Alexandre - and then there's the saying - "The more things change, the more they stay the same"I realized it could be comparing the two differences of apples to apples and apples to oranges!Warsaw Will — You're probably right.
Since "volume" and "weight" are different things, it doesn't quite make sense to say "The weights are the same, except for their volume." (It's like saying, "These two kids are the same age, except for their height.") Instead, you can say, "The weight of liquid and the weight of solid are the same, but the volumes are different."
And yes, of course it's about comparison of two things - but one where there's not really much difference.I appreciate the response, Will, and while I don't disagree that it's efficient (like you said, it's only two words) I suppose I take most offense with the words themselves, 'Same' and 'Difference',which to my ear sound oxymoronic.Example form Longman Dictionary - 'I could mail the letter or send a fax in the morning.'
"I had never heard it being used like that.. but i can think of an example where it kind of fits:I like Hairy's answer! A full stop can make all the difference! But he says he left to spend more time with his Airedale.” “Same difference.”).
Have a look at another example that will help you to understand the need for a grammar check before sending the copy to the audience. If something is the “same” as something else, there is no difference. Where did that come from? "Am I incorrect? And two times two equals four. You are incorrect. At least, in England, we say “I couldn’t care less”.But secondly, it's far from meaningless; it's like saying - "Well, these two things (whatever they are) may look different, but as far as I'm concerned they're more or less the same." You also use \"I\" as a predicate nominative after a \"to be\" verb.
Are the following sentences both grammatically correct? Like "Same old same old. According to the Oxford English Dictionary, the earliest use of the phrase in print found so far is from 1945, in a book titled “I Am Gazing Into My 8-Ball” by the legendary New York gossip columnist Earl Wilson. \"I\" is a nominative pronoun, which means that it is used as the subject of a sentence, or as a predicate nominative. 2. One could say “same thing” and save 50% of the syllables and avoid potential confusion.
It's more like what I tried to do here..Great. For example: It is I who went to the store.
"First of all it's an idiom, so it doesn't really need much justification.
But three plus one equals four, too. It still won't get there on time. To put it … Those who use it justify it as being akin to, “...same thing!” which has never sat right me.
“Same difference” is an idiom, a fixed phrase used in casual conversation. 2 and 3, are factually correct. - "same difference" makes perfect sense in this context. @Warsaw Will -- Thanks for that great article on the phrase, too!
Redirecting to more information...or fill in the name and email fields below:@ J.Alexandre - Thanks for your reply, which was rather more diplomatic than my comment. For example: I went to the store. - 'Same difference. They are both identical in material, construction, and color.
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